Beauty and the Beast (2017) – Sibling Rivalry

Oh yeah. Time to tick people off. Let’s bring on the hate train! Doug and Rob saw the latest Disney remake and it was not magical. The Walker brothers review 2017’s Beauty and the Beast.

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25 Comments on "Beauty and the Beast (2017) – Sibling Rivalry"

9ansean
Guest
Just going to say before even watching that I just came back from watching this and I loved it! Not going to see if I think it’s as good as the original, but it was magical enough for me and I’m especially glad I saw it in IMAX. I could go into all the things that worked for me and a few that didn’t, BUT this isn’t my place to review and I’m not interested in hearing anyone else break my good mood just yet. So yeeeeah, judging from the log lines I’m going to have to save this for… Read more »
9ansean
Guest
Okey my curiosity got the better of me (even it was just the opening and ending) and I have to make a few personal observations. I wasn’t expecting to either love or hate this movie. So I’m clearly not in the crowd who thinks the mouse can do no wrong. I only thought Cinderella, The Jungle Book, and even Pete’s Dragon were decent. I wasn’t hoping for this to be anything more than decent. Soooo, can me a sucker is you want, but again I loved it. I was actually blown away by how much I enjoyed it! There were… Read more »
neytari
Guest

What you said. The animated original is my favorite Disney and one of my favorite films, but that love doesn’t at all detract from the new one. Let them be separate things.

BellaWinx
Guest
That’s the problem; The whole raison d’etre for these live action re-makes is too play off of nostalgia: You can’t separate the 2. As the guys pointed out, Pete’s Dragon 2000 only had the name and bare premise in common with its original; The studio was not trying to push the nostalgia button as hard because Pete’s Dragon is one of Disney’s lesser films: You can’t compare the films. Beauty and the Beast ’91 was a HUGE movie so BATB 2017 slams its fist on that button but gives itself electro shock for doing that because it runs around trying… Read more »
9ansean
Guest

I couldn’t disagree more. I think this film was very much it’s own thing. I could thing of a ton of changes and while some of them didn’t work for me, most of them did. There was really only one point I was ever feeling “your actor is not my memory of this character from the story I remember.” Namely when the Mrs. Potts singing came into “Be Our Guest.” The rest of the time, well I was having moments of nostalgia but mostly just enjoying everything on it’s terms.

9ansean
Guest
Okay I’ve FINALLY gotten around to watching this and frankly…I’m more bored than offend. I already know I wasn’t going to agree when you said you could count the goods one hand, but most of the bad points are just delivered in tiresome matter for me. Sorry if you didn’t like the singing or the acting from anyone in particular. I have sensitive hearing, but I guess I’m not fit to judge classical music. Because they were all fine for me. The rest of the points left me indifferent. I finally had to give up after all the ranting about… Read more »
JohnnyElRojo
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I rewatched the original version before watching this one, and I think people lets themselves get pulled by the nostalgia WAY too much.
I mean, have you seen how Belle and the Beast interacted in the original, to say that in this one have no chemistry?
I’m just gonna say it, no matter how many people may hate me.

The only things in favor of the original were its visuals, and its music! That’s it.

Oh, and Gaston. How to forget Gaston.

thatchickwithlonghair
Guest
thatchickwithlonghair

Da faq?
There’s nothing “GAY” in The Great Mouse Detective and the Harry Potter kids’ acting is just fine. =_=

The Mysterious M
Guest

Shipping and fanfic my dear thatchickwithlonghair. Even antagonistic relationships have chemistry (chemistry having a pretty broad definition). And the cat and mouse game between Basil and Rattigan could be perceived as homosexual. And if it isn’t…then fanfic writers will find a way to make it.

(PS, this is not a dig at fanfic writers)

happymel
Guest

I liked all of the live action movies, except Maleficient. That movie can go screw itself. I may or may not see this one. I’m not really attached to the original Beauty and the Beast even though it is a masterpiece. Also, more Mamma Mia and Once Upon A Time bashing. 😒 But still, to each his own.

Feeny-chan
Guest

Yeah, unfortunately, Emma Watson most likely has not been trained well enough for singing roles.

I’m not liking these Disney live action remakes tbh. It feels like a cash grab, especially regarding the fact that the Renaissance era films are still relatively fresh on the mind.

Redoing aged films like Jungle Book? Fine.
Redoing still relatively recent films from 20 years ago? Leave them alone.

Hardback247
Guest

Every movie ever made could technically be considered “cash grabs.” It is a business after all.

Tross
Guest
I enjoyed this film personally, but then I don’t remember the original all that well aside from a few scenes. It was part of my childhood, but it’s not a film I’ve revisited since, and I don’t regard it in such a way that it feels like Disney dumped on my childhood or anything. Heck, I don’t even remember Gaston having a friend in the original, and don’t recall much of Gaston himself aside from the beginning and the end of the film. I do remember the CG ballroom scene and recall finding it impressive for its time, whereas I… Read more »
LHG
Guest

With this movie and a lot of the other remakes, I feel they’re using memory of the old animated films to fill in their lack of exposition and feeling. IE, making the viewer do the work. I have no doubt that come a few years later they’ll have their backlash or just be forgotten in comparison.

Babinro
Guest
Die in a fire Doug and Rob! You don’t have the right to review movies or hold an opinion on the industry if you don’t LOVE this property! Did I do it right? Apparently this is the response they were expecting for sharing a 100% personal opinion about a movie they just saw and haven’t been able to fully absorb with time. Can we just STOP with fearing/embracing internet backlash? You saw a movie, share your opinion. Simple. You don’t need to constantly take things cautiously just because you don’t share the perceived popular opinion of a property. This comment… Read more »
9ansean
Guest

Just thought it’s worth mentioning that Susan Egan who originated the part of Belle on Broadway has described Emma Watson’s casting as “perfect” and is continuing to give sing her praises. Admittedly I don’t if given her reaction to the final film yet.
http://dailybruin.com/2017/03/15/qa-alumna-discusses-her-experience-as-original-broadways-belle/

Anon Tumahab
Guest
Personally, I liked it better than the original in many ways. I actually believed the chemistry between Belle and the Beast in this one, and it patched up a number of the more infamous plot holes of the original animated film. Sure, it didn’t have Paige O’Hara and Angela Lansberry, but I thought Emma Watson and Emma Thompson still sounded just fine in their singing roles. I only had three real beefs: (1) they could have left the one or two modern colloquialisms out of the film–I hate it when people do that; (2) thinking back to Doug’s rant about… Read more »
AStrangeBeing
Guest

No hate train here. Mostly everybody’s saying it’s mediocre and pointless. Just go watch Cocteau’s film.

starfall42
Guest
Naw, no hate mail here. I just saw it today. Meh. If I hadn’t see the original, I probably would have liked it pretty well. The problem is the original is so perfect that any changes make it less so. We didn’t need the backstory for the dead moms; we didn’t need Gaston’s backstory. (Though it would have been funny if both Belle’s and the Beast’s mothers were named Martha. 🙂 You covered the singing problems pretty well. Audra McDonald’s goofy aria was probably a shoutout to Jo Anne Worley, who was the voice of the wardrobe in the original,… Read more »
starfall42
Guest

Oh, and to contrast… Susan Egan (yep, Steven Universe’s mom). She played Belle in the Broadway play and pulled off the singing and dancing perfectly. It’s not that it can’t be done, they just didn’t try.

(BTW, I hope you can get back to the Steven Universe vlogs soon — there’s a lot to cover!)

coredumperror
Guest

Christ on a cracker, Doug… that opening fucking sucked. I’m not even going to bother watching the review, because you summed up your position so well in the first 30 seconds. Your position being “I have no idea what I’m talking about”.

CaptainRoland
Guest
I just watched it absolutely agree with you bros on many levels on the chess piece pacing and the not natural story of the 1991 animated masterpiece flow point A to point B to point C. Characters go here or there, sing here or there do things and make choices because the script says so and the musical numbers are so loud and overly bombastic (with sounded like a 150 or nearly 200 piece classical orchestra in the IMAX but still 2D presentation and really close-up creepy over the top CGI characters and certain effects up to eleventh levels because… Read more »
CaptainRoland
Guest
I agree with you Walker bros on a lot of things except for Emma Watson’s so-called “singing talent” or absolute lack of vocal and acting talent as you put it to me she’s decent classically trained singer for a young British actress who’s exactly my age being born in 1990. She’s not a bad singer here but let me explain: 1. Emma Watson”s Belle didn’t have to sing her songs as operatically as possible because I have inkling in most American or British or Western musical theater/comic opera/ operetta but US American and British (New York City’s Broadway Theater District… Read more »
SquirrellyFries
Guest

The ballroom scene in the original hasn’t aged well? Are you kidding me? I still get chills every time I watch the shot coming down from the chandelier – The colors, the stellar animation (hand-drawn in a complicated camera move, wow) and paired with the apex of the beautiful song – That scene is what got the movie its oscar nom.

As far as the 90’s CG goes, it’s just as sophisticated as it needs to be for the background of a 2D animated film and looks fine. What exactly is it lacking?

ErichoTTA
Guest

I thought it was decent. I admit the gay thing was disappointing. I never even noticed the book thing. I was just confused by that scene. Well, you make valid points. It was nice to hear a different opinion.

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