Cocks and Robbers – WTFIWWY Live

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TragicGuineaPig
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TragicGuineaPig
30 days 13 hours ago
Christmas was not stolen from pagans. The earliest written accounts of pagan holidays in late December are from about the 5th century AD. But the earliest written references to Christians observing a celebration of the Nativity in late December come from the 2nd century AD. What’s more, the Church Fathers attribute the timing of the celebration to the Jewish liturgical calendar. The “Christians stole it from the pagans!” argument AT BEST is a Confusion of Correlation and Causation Fallacy. Just because the celebrations occur at the same time, it does not mean that one group stole it from the other.… Read more »
TragicGuineaPig
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TragicGuineaPig
30 days 13 hours ago
TragicGuineaPig
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TragicGuineaPig
30 days 13 hours ago

32:20 – Biz Markie should include that in a new version of one of his old songs. “Pickin’ Boogers!”

solemn
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solemn
30 days 4 hours ago
They fuck you’re talking about mate? We have records of Saturnalia (~Dec. 17th-23rd) that predate Christianity. By a lot. Like, there’s stuff about changes made to the celebration of Saturnalia in 200 BC, so obviously it was being celebrated earlier than that. It’s just standard practice for ALL religions (the Romans did it, too, as well as many others) to adopt the customs of other peoples to make the religion more appealing (the best example of which is Easter… because Easter is the name of a pagan goddess). Plus I’m giving a massive side-eye to a great deal of this… Read more »
TragicGuineaPig
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TragicGuineaPig
29 days 15 hours ago
“I’m giving a massive side-eye to a great deal of this guy’s sources because they seem directly linked to a religious institute.” And that right there is a major part of your problem: You and other people like you aren’t willing to acknowledge the very real possibility that Christians had their own reasons for celebrating at this time, and that it had nothing to do with paganism. For one, it’s ad hominem; you’re not really dealing with his points, but rejecting them because of your own biases. It’s also the Correlation-Causation Fallacy I cited above: you assume we stole it;… Read more »
PontyMython
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PontyMython
29 days 1 hour ago
“I have yet to find any actual ancient sources that predate the 5th century that describe Saturnalia” Well then to be blunt, but you haven’t looked very hard. Lets go down a few shall we? Pliny the Younger (61 AD-113AD), describing a favourite room in his home to a friend named Gallus: “I find it delightful to sit there, especially during the Saturnalia, when all the rest of the house rings with the merry riot and shouts of the festival-makers.” So we know the festival exists, that there is much revelry, enough that Pliny wishes to distance himself from it… Read more »
StormWolf
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StormWolf
26 days 16 hours ago

“Why won’t they accept my biased sources? WHY??” Come on, man.

TragicGuineaPig
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TragicGuineaPig
29 days 15 hours ago

What I’m trying to get at is this: the people who are best qualified to tell you why early Christians decided to celebrate the Feast of the Nativity at this particular time of the year would be the ancient Christians themselves. And yet, that seems to be the last place anyone wants to look for the answer to that question. Instead, it’s to much later Roman sources and to modern scholars trying to make names for themselves.

MidnightScreeningsman2014
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MidnightScreeningsman2014
30 days 11 hours ago
Being a Christian but not big on church myself I say fuck that guy in the first story ya zombie people don’t hold Jesus over Santa that’s why they also call Santa saint Nicholas and I’m not surprised either that MTV tried to play off Santa as being Satan. As for South Carolina and the porn ban, that shit is so stupid but what also made me pissed off is the porn puts our children in harm’s way. Well if course it could if they get mixed up with the wrong people, on porn websites there is basically 0 percent… Read more »
lilith_ascennding
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lilith_ascennding
30 days 8 hours ago
That last story makes me think of the scene from Bob’s Burgers where the kids launch the dildos in the sex shop while shouting “Release the personal massagers!” in order to form a diversion for their dad to steal a mannequin (That was a weird episode, but a sweet one :D). Anyways, I’m glad this episode ended on a happier story because that first story made my blood boil. Fuck that pastor, seriously. What’s he going to do next? Kick a walker out from a handicapped child’s arms? Throw a puppy against a window? Shit on a homeless man? Really,… Read more »
Redrally
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Redrally
29 days 1 hour ago

You are 100% right…the amount of people who call themselves Christians but preach against what Jesus taught just makes me shake my head.

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