Crisis on Infinite Earths – AT4W

Worlds lived, worlds died… and then they lived again. And died again. And lived again. We’re just kind of used to it by now.

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Atop the Fourth Wall is a show about bad comic books. Linkara finds the surreal and the stupid and breaks them down page by page. You'll know why they're idiotic and how they can be improved.

17 comments

  1. Crisis on Infinite Earths is one of comic book classics and important part of comic book history so of course Linkara likes it. If he didn’t he would be dead inside or one of those annoying Batman fanboys.

  2. Well worth the wait! 😀

  3. Hey Linkara. Great review. Unrelated question though ; i remember you crashing Comicron One into the moon and saying “It’s back”, presumably talking about the entity. Did you ever follow up on it, or did i miss that episode ?

  4. So happy to get a Spider Man TAS reference of Kingpin. Very bad for business indeed.

  5. I cannot believe after all these years since AT4W started, I never bought myself a copy of Crisis on Infinite Earths. Sad, I know, but I am at least seeing a review on it.

    Part 1:
    7:14- “And from that darkness, came the Dark Elves.” …Dammit, wrong comic book universe.
    11:08- “YES, YOU SHOULD DO SOMETHING, YOU BORING IDIOTS!”
    I first knew about the Psycho Pirate thanks to his appearance in Justice League Unlimited.
    17:47- Well, at least we have “I AM A MAN!” and “Of Course! Don’t you know anything about science?” in THIS timeline.
    Nice job on the Cabin Fever clip. Phelous must be so proud.
    Lady Quark sound like a female version of Quark from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, and YES, I know about the episode where he disguises himself as a woman.

    Part 2:
    2:00- As much as I enjoyed Dino Charge, I agree with you on that statement.
    I also love the design of the Anti-Monitor. I would love to see him in a DCEU movie somewhere down the road.
    And I though Supergirl’s death was because of how lackluster the 1984 Supergirl movie was. (insert comedic drum roll here)
    It’s so nice to see the early appearance of Super-Whinny-Halfwit-Murderer-Prime.
    17:50- And I am still reminded of the events in Thor: The Dark World.
    21:24- Oh my god! The Psycho Pirate has become my dad! (insert dramatic stinger here)
    For the original comic epic, this was really good.

  6. TragicGuineaPig

    Secret Wars! The true origin of the Venom Symbiote (the story without which Venom never seems to make any sense).

  7. Ironically this series is why I’m so interested in the multiverse. Ironic because the whole point was to streamline everything to a single world.

    • Well.. at that point it was justified decision as previous multiverse was mostly set of basically several unfitting franchises collected by DC after 1954 comic crisis and they golden era stuff what still has own niche fandom. Putting that in one bag was really good idea. Nowadays we have something in between with multiverse kicking again, but more open then before with all those characters traveling between the words, what allow singular narrative.

  8. I love anything where the average hero and the average villain come together to fight a shared enemy. I don’t know why but I just do.

    • TragicGuineaPig

      Could be because you get to see a bit more character development. With a common foe, the whole “because I’m evil!” schtick is sidestepped, and you get a bit more about what really motivates them. Maybe not, but that’s usually how it works for me.

  9. Snorgatch Pandalume

    One of my favorite small character moments from Crisis was the death of Solivar, King of Gorilla City. He saves Kamandi, who lives in a post-apocalyptic future where humans are slaves to intelligent mutant animals, and while Kamandi is initially mistrustful of a talking gorilla, he and Solivar end up bonding in an almost father-son way, so that when Solivar dies it actually carries some emotional weight.
    A shame DC later had to go and totally fuck up Kamandi’s character. 🙁

  10. Having experienced as a child reading these anticipated issues as they were coming out, it’s interesting to see how someone might feel inundated by all the exposition & characterization being laid out in one collected volume here, though you’ve fairly summarized the essential plot points here & it was nice to hear some follow up coverage on characters. Visually the major thing that always struck me was George Perez’s layouts on this massive undertaking, who previously worked on one of my favorite comics before COIE, The All New Teen Titans (whose team included actual progeny of Titans, both adopted & genetic like Donna Troy & Lilith Clay…funny how clay ties to both actually but I’m digressing). With the upcoming release of the film “Wonder Woman” are you fittingly planning on covering Perez’s mythologically complex, topically heavy run on the Post-Crisis 1987 Wonder Woman series? Off topic it would also be incredible if you covered Mike Grell’s “Warlord” (No he’s not The Green Arrow, all Grell major male characters tend to look like each other that’s all. And the biggest question of all… is the fur bikini attired Shakira a cat who can transform into a woman or a woman who can transform into a cat? Find out!) & Mishkin/COhn/Colon’s “Amethyst: Princess of The Gemworld” (yeah I know, girl centric but this series has some dark stuff for something aimed towards young girls, you know, like rape, murder, infanticide, abduction, demonic possession, all typical girl things right? Aside from that, it’s nice they later tied this to Tim Hunter in “The Books of Magic”, another great series worth covering.)

    • Snorgatch Pandalume

      Being a big Edgar Rice Burroughs fan, I have always loved Warlord, since it’s basically ERB’s “Pellucidar” novels with the serial numbers filed off. Even the character’s name is an homage to ERB’s second most famous hero, John Carter, Warlord of Mars (the most famous of course being Tarzan). And Mike Grell’s artwork is always a delight to look at. 🙂

  11. This story only recently got translated into Japanese in 2015. As ubiquitous as Superman and other heroes are, superhero comic books have long struggled to be more catchy and accessible just in America. In other countries, they’ve practically been behind a inaccessible brick wall of lore and text nobody wanted to touch for so long. DBZ wouldn’t even have Superman influence if it wasn’t for the Christopher Reeve movies.

    Now the success of comic book movies is spurring on interest in the books themselves. It’ll be interesting to see what cross-pollinations of ideas happen next… and how some of it will be unavoidably weird. Like that time giving Japan Spider-man led to Power Rangers.

  12. I’m sure you’ve announced this in your ‘reviews to come’ posts, but I don’t read ahead (preferring to be surprised). So I’m gonna guess: next week: Secret Wars!
    Though your description reminded me more of the Shaper Of Worlds than of the Beyonder.

    Also, since when do you listen to Blind Guardian? I’m impressed!

  13. This is my favorite comic book! Anyway, it was great to relive these memories. I guess I am for nostalgia after all. I just love it because of how massive it is. It’s great seeing all these wonderful characters. I haven’t read any of the sequels though.

    I believe the Monitor has stayed dead. I have never probably never seen any narrative that had more characters. Well, maybe the computer game MUGEN. Still, that didnt have much narrative.

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