Flashpoint – AT4W

Short for, “Flash, what was even the point?”

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21 Comments on "Flashpoint – AT4W"

SpeedyEric
Guest
And we now end Event Comics Month with a storyline that I’ve actually read and own, because it was being made into a DC Animated Original Movie. And it’s no wonder now why the animated film adaptation was titled “Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox.” 7:22- At least we had Flash fight Quicksilver in Marvel vs. DC in the 90’s. I haven’t read the tie-in books to Flashpoint, because 1. I assumed they weren’t adapted to the movie, and 2. I didn’t have that time and money to read them. I wonder if 2090s Kid’s real name is anything like “Eobard… Read more »
Someoneelse
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How about Dammit Barry! why do you keep appearing in the DC Extended Universe.

SpeedyEric
Guest

How about …NO.

Shinigami
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Funny enough, CinemaSins uploaded they “Everything Wrong With”-video that was about animated movie version of this event comic.

Snorgatch Pandalume
Guest
Huh. I’d never read Flashpoint and knew nothing about it. Neat idea, but you’re right, it feels too small. It’s basically “City on the Edge of Forever” with the Flash’s mom in the Edith Keeler role as the innocent who has to die to put everything right, and the whole reboot aspect seems to have been tacked on at the last minute as a superfluous extra. There’s no reason the story couldn’t have just restored the original timeline and that would be that. But here’s the thing that bothers me, both about “City” and “Flashpoint.” They both revolve around a… Read more »
TragicGuineaPig
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Actually, as I understand it, it wasn’t merely that Flash’ mother survived. She was only a minor player in the history, not enough of a change on the Divergence meter to constitute a jump from an Alpha to a Beta timeline. But it’s the fact that Barry’s use of the Speed Force to make that change corrupted history. As Reverse Flash explained it, like throwing a stone in a river, it sent shockwaves farther back in time to corrupt the history leading up to that point. It didn’t just change the future from that point, but it even changed the… Read more »
Snorgatch Pandalume
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Oh no, I just got “actuallyed!” 😉
Actually, thanks for the clarification. No, it doesn’t make much sense, but time travel stories can make up their own rules as they go, so any explanation is better than none.

TragicGuineaPig
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I see your “actually” and raise you one “to be fair.”

ErichoTTA
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I watched the movie version and absolutely loved it! Honestly, this seems a lot worse. I wish you had mentioned that. I simply watched every superhero movie last month. I do my own theme months! I’m currently ending Anime Month.

TragicGuineaPig
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Probably because it makes a much better movie than a huge giant crossover event comic. It focuses on the Flash’s story.

TragicGuineaPig
Guest
I wasn’t a huge fan of The Watchmen. It may have been a neat deconstruction back in the day, but the film was mostly dull and depressing – it was okay at best. But here’s the thing: The Watchmen characters were meant to be analogues to certain properties that DC had acquired that they hadn’t yet incorporated into the mainstream DC universe at that time. Nightowl was based on Blue Beetle; Rorschach was based on The Question, etc. Basically, what it means is that the characters that The Watchmen are based on now exist in the mainstream DC universe. So… Read more »
Snorgatch Pandalume
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Since when has DC ever put money ahead of good storytelling? *cough* Suicide Squad *cough*

handsomefatman
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A mediocre comic but a fantastic animated feature.

happymel
Guest

I loved that you used the score from the Flash tv show. This is perfect timing given that the current show just did this storyline (in their way). After seeing this video, I kind of like how the show did it more. Lastly, I didn’t know that there was a basis for the black Kid Flash in the show so that was interesting to learn.

Dechha1981
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I’m reminded of Road Runner, where Reality switches from catoon logic to real world logic just to be inconvenient for the Coyote. Road runner can run into a painting of a tunnel, while the Coyote just hurts himself trying to do the same thing.

Dechha1981
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to me the most interesting part of this story (which wasn’t in this so must have been in a tie-in comic) was Martha Wayne Joker. I won’t spoil it but Martha Is even more evil than Jack Napier. Also Salina Kyle is in it.

cannedfury
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There’s… an atopthefourthwall dot com? Has that always been in these videos? Huh.

Well, time to dig through a million videos to find that text post. Your productive work ethic has doomed us all.

The Real Silverstar
Guest
I never read the comic version of “Flashpoint”, but I saw the DTV. One thing that bugs me about this story is something that bugs me about superhero origin stories in general: namely, this notion that nowadays you can only become a superhero if you’re all or half an orphan. Apparently it’s not enough to just want to do the right thing or admire your childhood heroes before you’re gifted with powers or whatever, it’s now a requirement that one of your loved ones has to die first. That cliche is annoying and overdone. Just because that angle worked with… Read more »
OldManHermit
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Never read the comic but I rather enjoyed the animated adaptation. I like the surly, hard drinking Thomas Wayne version of batman.

TheGreenMan
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B5! Yeah!

Nova25
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I remember watching this animation movie on TV.
I thought it was something of ”epic proportions, yet eerie and unsettling”, with how Aquaman and Wonderwoman destroyed whole chunks of the world… the power behind it, and how ”questionable” the Amazons’ motivations were… Ending with an ”End of the world” that luckily didn’t happen(more or less).

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