Secret Wars – AT4W

Considering how many times it’s referenced and remade, it’s not a very well-kept secret.

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Atop the Fourth Wall is a show about bad comic books. Linkara finds the surreal and the stupid and breaks them down page by page. You'll know why they're idiotic and how they can be improved.


  1. TragicGuineaPig


    Will you be doing the multi-crossover follow-up, Secret Wars II? Because, despite the potential of the Beyonder as a character, I felt the whole thing was totally goofy and totally boring.

    I like the use of Starscream’s voice for Ultron. It really fits.

    • TragicGuineaPig

      If I recall correctly, this took place sometime after the Brood Saga of the X-Men. Prof. X’ original body was infected with a Brood, and the Shi’ar cloned him in order to save his life.

      But, yeah, Xavier gains and loses the ability to walk almost as often as Jean Gray gains and loses the ability to breathe.

      Magneto’s ultimate nemesis: a couple of mentally deranged clowns who question the operation of his powers.

      Comparing Magneto to Hitler: I think that’s why Wasp invoked that comparison, because she knew it would trigger him.

    • Snorgatch Pandalume

      Me too! For some reason I always imagined Ultron having a high, scratchy voice, rather than a deep, imposing one. I don’t know why. I think it might be because a lot of the Marvel villains from the TV shows back in the 1960s had voices like that, and they were really my first exposure to comic book superheroes. Nice to see Linkara agrees. 🙂

      • I also figured he’d have that voice, since he does have the face of a metal jack o’ lantern. Along with the single-minded evil thing, I could only imagine him sounding like a cartoon goblin.

        It was also really hard not to imagine Ultron-6 working in slow-downs and record scratches as he talked.

        • TragicGuineaPig

          I thought Ultron’s face was based on the ant. Because Hank Pym likes ants for some reason.

          • Sure, the basic silhouette is there. But once you give it a jawline instead of mandibles and triangle eyes, the glowing, jagged grin kind of resembles something else.

  2. Yet ANOTHER even comic that I wish I read by now.

    Part 1:
    I’m actually still happy that DC changed the name of their Captain Marvel to Shazam.
    The look of Battleworld reminds me of in JLA/Titans: The Technis Imperative where Cyborg was swallowing the moon.
    10:20- “THERE ARE NO STRINGS ON ME!!!”
    I really hope we see Doomkara again. He’s as fun as Batkara.
    I agree that Marvel has a lot of green villains, especially those of Hydra.
    I recall you mentioning the cover of Issue 4 way back in 2010 when you were talking about eye-catching covers vs. bland and uninspired covers.
    24:17- Says every Trump-hater in the world, including me.

    Part 2:
    For those who don’t know, Klaw is the guy who was played by Andy Serkis in “Avengers: Age of Ultron,” and we’ll see him again in “Black Panther,” which will be released next February.
    5:14- Enchantress and Ultimate Universe Tony Stark should marry each other.
    8:52: SCIENCE: You suck at it.
    11:37- Why the hell couldn’t the climax of Fant4stic be like THIS!? You fail, Fox. YOU FAAAAAIIIIILLLLL!!!!!
    16:50- Quick, someone put Lian Harper into one of those pods!
    19:27- I’d like to see Cap to that in the Infinity War movie to remove Black Panther’s claw marks.
    I also fondly remember the multi-part episode of the Spider-Man animated series based on Secret Wars.

    • TragicGuineaPig

      I’m not. I grew up watching Shazam! on TV when I was a kid, both the live action and the cartoon. To me, Shazam is the name of the wizard, not the name of the hero. And the hero had the name long before Marvel created their own character with the name. As long as they refer to any works featuring him as Shazam, that should be sufficient to avoid confusion.

      And no, I don’t think they should change the name of Carol Danvers character, either. She should be able to call herself Captain Marvel just as much as Mar-Vell did before her.

      But here’s an intriguing bit to add to the confusion: there’s also a Supergirl named Kara Danvers. Similar enough? So basically, the Marvel character shares TWO names very similar to DC characters.

    • I’m not fond of why it happened but I guess it is cool that he can work Shazam into conversation now, still now what are we meant to call the wizard

  3. HeyLinkara! Great video as ever!

    So, you probably already know this, but when I try to get onto your site, Norton Antivirus reads your site as a dangerous website, any idea why this might be fixed?

  4. Does Molecule Man remind anyone else of that SNL sketch with Conan O’Brien?

  5. You killed me with that Dr. Doom outfit, proclaiming your mastery of a stick shift!! AAHAHAHA!!

  6. The Fox Kids Spider-Man version of Secret Wars was neat for the time, but marred a bit by not having Doom or the Fantastic Four in the show prior. But the FF suck, so it’s okay. Good X-Men pick too: Storm, instead of the usual cliche Wolverine.

    • The FF not previously appearing in the series annoyed me too.
      I am one of those rare outliers that had affection for the team and their cartoon, the cheesy theme song kind of embodies what I like about them, they are cheesy.

    • The Fantastic Four don’t suck. Only the movie adaptations of the characters do (thus far). The mistake that Fant4stick made was trying to make the characters dark and edgy and the F4 was never that; it’s a goofy, cheese ball comedy that the director should rightfully had taken the Guardians of the Galaxy type approach to. No more of this dark, Chronicle crap. I want the next F4 film to be comedy. I’m hoping that I’ll eventually see a good big screen adaptation of the F4 in my lifetime.

  7. It seems you acclimated the volume of the theme song to the rest of the video. And for that I am truly grateful. I mean I think you did. I usually have to turn the volume up to get my jam on, then turn it down again for discretion.

  8. On that 52 cover shown in Part 1… was that your purdy hat (?) because I swear it was.

  9. Well this was interesting to some one like me who only knew 90’s Spider-Man cartoon version of this story.

  10. Looking back it did foreshadow the new one a little bit

  11. To further extrapolate on the whole melodrama thing, in the whole twelve issues of Secret Wars only fourteen sentences don’t end in either an exclamation point or a question mark.

  12. Dude, I always LOVE the end credit text!

  13. Reactions to part 1:
    (I’ll have to wait to watch part 2)

    These days, if somebody says a story was goofy, that’s actually a selling point for me.

    The X-Men / Spider-Man battle has been featured on CBR’s ‘The Wrong Side Won’.

    “What kind of beings build a fortress with no powder rooms?”
    “Given what happens to The Beyonder in Secret Wars II…”
    I think I know the scene you’re referring to.

    If Xavier brought up his crime again, it was many, many years later.

  14. “This Ultron won’t show remorse for ripping a guy’s arm off.”
    By sheer coincidence, said one-armed man is Klaw, who you discuss later in this episode.

    Next week’s is probably what the MCU is building up to.

    Yeah, I always make sure to read your post-credit feferences!

  15. I haven’t read this one. Judging form this, “Crisis On Infinite Earths” is better. I mean, that IS my favorite comic book. Beyonder appeared very little in this. I saw most of the Spider-Man cartoon adaptation. Didn’t see the finale though.

    They did the same thing with gathering the heroes and villains. This just wasn’t done as well. Galactus is always awesome. Weird how they didn’t bring up Venom. This should have involved more universes, though. Again, DC did it better first.

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