SF Debris: Mr. Freeze

SF Debris looks at the start and end of the animated career of Batman’s enemy, Mr. Freeze.

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  1. Might not have been worth mentioning, which could be why you didn’t, but Dr. Stephanie Lake on Batman Beyond was voiced by the one and only Linda Hamilton.

  2. Snowing to 70 the next day? So Gotham is Denver?

    It actually does that here, in Denver the gods of weather constantly change their minds.

  3. You know Batman Beyond might have been pretty weak due to it’s episodic nature and having few good villains, but I really loved Blight.

  4. Sad story about Mr. Freeze’s origin. They changed it again. Now Nora had been in cryogenic sleep long before Freeze became a scientist and that’s why he’s obsessed with her. They never had a relationship and Freeze always had a thing for freezing things to death. Yeah… They made the cliche “screw motives, he’s evil” (or these days “insane”).

    Still, I liked the reviews. These are great episodes of two really good animated series (or one really good and one groundbreaking and amazing one).

    • Screw the New 52! Bah, they’ll change it back, you just wait.

    • I disagree that they ruined the origin. Scott Snyder’s retooling was unnecessary, perhaps, but there still remains the tragic element of Victor wanting to recreate his childhood, his obsession with his “wife” Nora reflecting his regret over his mother. But it’ll probably be retconned eventually, so don’t worry about it.

      • Granted it’s been a while since I read that comic, but didn’t Freeze (who was still a kid at the time) take his wheel chair bound slightly crazy mother back to the frozen lake she fell in, and PUSH HER IN, killing her?

        Anyway, changing it so Nora isn’t his wife, and she’s just part of his obsession with the cold? It may still be “tragic”, but now instead of a sympathetic character in Batman’s normally despicable rouges gallery, he’s just another crazy killer. He’s just obsessed with ice instead of clowns or penguins or riddles.

  5. God, that Obamacare joke. You turned that around in such a clever way, I had to pause the video I was laughing so hard.

  6. 3:25 – Are you saying that Officer Renee is related to Inigo?

  7. Whatever happened to that radioactive Powers guy. It’s like they were setting him up to be the big bad, but nobody cared. Was it even Terry who beat him, or was it just Bruce’s lawyers when Bruce took back the company.

  8. I think that you certainly spotlighted two greats. Although I’d have prefered if Mr. Freeze’s character arc ended in “Batman: Sub-Zero” I think that “Meltdown” was a well done swan song.

    Actually almost every Mr. Freeze episode was great. Though, I’m not exactly crazy about “Cold Comfort” because it’s such a stark unsympathetic return to Freeze who had lost his need for vengeful in “Batman: Sub-Zero” and he wept with joy when he learned that Nora was restored to perfect health. Not to mention in “Cold Comfort” Freeze tries to kill Alfred and Tim to ruin Bruce Wayne’s life, something wildly bizarre of him to do; considering –if I recall correctly– at the end of Sub-Zero Bruce used his money to get Nora the medical treatment she needed.

    The only positive of “Cold Comfort” was that the late, talented Hilary J. Bader was able to use that plot device in order to give a fitting swan song to send him off on in Batman Beyond. I have to wonder if Bader conceived of “Cold Comfort” (the TNBA Freeze episode) as a way of being able to have him show up later in Batman Beyond since she was the writer of both “Meltdown” and “Cold Comfort”. It’s an interesting idea if it was.

  9. Batman had stopped being “camp” a decade before Frank Miller ever penned a single thing Batman-related. Frank Robbins, Denny O’Neil, Gerry Conway, Len Wein, and others had returned Batman to his darker, gothic roots in the 1970s and early 80s, before The Dark Knight Returns, before Crisis on Infinite Earths, and before Batman: Year One did a new origin.

    I mean, O’Neil practically reinvented the character all on his own. All Miller did was help solidify that vision in pop culture.

    • That is true. Batman’s character started becoming more serious back in the early 70s, when they revamped the Silver Age Batman.

      But I do think a solid argument can be made that the camp stigma didn’t start to fade until the late 80s, and a huge chunk of that because of the Tim Burton film. Then again, Burton did retain some camp elements, particularly in Batman Returns.

  10. Obviously 70 degrees kelvin. …No wait, that’s -333.67 degrees fahrenheit…

  11. One thing Chuck didn’t mention, was that Mr. Freeze was so unimportant that a year before “Heart of Ice” aired, he’d been killed off in the comics, shot dead by The Joker. Amazing turn around, isn’t it? One year, he’s cannon fodder for one of Batman’s most memorable enemies and then the next, he *is* one of Batman’s most memorable enemies.

  12. MidnightScreeningsman2014

    I’m beginning to like your reviews even more,very talented. When you didn’t want Mark Hamill to pull a second moment I think that’s just who he is. He pulls crazy moments a lot cause mark Hamill is a crazy actor like in Kingsman. That snow globe of his wife was beautiful and I feel very sad for him. The reason he didn’t care that he froze the guards was because he just wanted to get a cure for his wife. Nice joke about obamacare in the second part. it’s very interesting how different the two show’s are. definetly will check out more of your work when it comes to channel awesome. your a good man an glad you got hired for the site

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