Sibling Rivalry: 50 Shades of Grey

Could it have been worse? Yes, but that’s the problem!

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71 Comments on "Sibling Rivalry: 50 Shades of Grey"

Sothe
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Oh I was so hoping this would be a thing….

cloneboy123
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I haven’t even watched the movie but it must have been horrible having to watch this, being an internet critic comes with it’s blessings and in this case curses. I was wondering when Doug would start the Vlogs again, there’s only one new Gravity falls episode but Adventure time has more than 7 and they’re all really interesting.

Hardback247
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How come we’ve never seen Doug’s wife? He’s mentioned her many times.

Black INK.I.M
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My guess is that she’s part of the same club that Columbo’s wife is.

GutsForGlory38
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Or Maris from Frasier.

DarkenedWolfEye
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I just assumed she didn’t want to be on camera. Some people prefer not to have their face out there. Hell, Todd doesn’t want his face out there, and he actually does this for a living.

ToonaFish
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umm… why’d we see his WIFE?
Seriously, do you bring your bitch to the office? I know I wouldn’t bring the dick to the office.
(Reviewing movies is something Doug and Rob DO. Now, for money. It’s their JOB. It’s not very common for people to bring their spouses to work with them you know. Mostly because spouses have a job of their own)

ToastyMozart
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We’ve seen her hand a few times on the AT Vlogs, presumably she doesn’t want her face floating around the internet.

The Mysterious M
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No desire to see this. No desire to read the books. I was very very very very very very very very briefly interested when I found out Marcia Gay Harden joined the cast (she’s awesome, and I enjoy her performances usually), but then I regained my sense and steered clear of this movie

Heart-Lightning
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“The sequels are going to make less and only get a dedicated fan-base to it” Try telling that to the Star Wars Prequels and the Bayformers movies. Those movies make a shit ton of money due to people going to buy tickets to see those movies again and again. Movie sales are so damn easy to make as long as you sell to the lowest common denominator. It’s different sales wise than with video games for example. FF7/10/13 direct sequles/spinoffs sell less than their number titles but that’s due to the fact of how they are budgeted, marketed and said… Read more »
Keyser94
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Please, you would critic the prequels? People really dont learn anything in the last 15 years or the last 30? You dont realize that people that actually enjoy this movies because the political commentary, the intrigue and the mystery? It seems that the Original Star Wars fans hadnt grow up at all, they are stuck in their stupid childish five years old personas, and bitch and whim to everyone that dont agree with them, maybe is because of that, that they are isolated from the rest of the fandom, BECAUSE NO ONE STAND TO THEIR SHIT ANYMORE. Grow up, the… Read more »
spyro2060
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The prequels are for morons just like you

Fontinau
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Well, the original trilogy is for morons too.

Heart-Lightning
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Dude the prequel movies sucked for the most part (Taken from Rotten Tomatoes):

Episode 1: 57% Critic, 60% User Average (Mediocre)
Episode 2: 66% Critic, 60% User Average (Mediocre)
Episode 3: 80% Critic, 65% User Average (Mixed)

Now let’s compare that to the original trilogy:

Episode 4: 93% Critic, 96% User Average (Universally Acclaiming)
Episode 5: 96% Critic, 97% User Average (Universally Acclaiming
Episode 6: 79% Critic, 95 User Average (Mostly good)

Definitively, the original trilogy was better than the prequel trilogy. It’s a fact.

AngryPete
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1) Rottentomatoes means exactly fuck all. 50 Shade of Grey has a 25%.

2) The rating for Phantom Menace is tainted from when it was re-released, after it became cool to hate.

3) ratings on older movies are NEVER reliable, they’re always overinflated because they’re regarded as “classics”, no matter how good they really were when they were released.

“It’s a fact?” Statistics from critics are “definitive” about what fucking movies you’re ALLOWED to like? You’ve outed yourself as a functionally retarded blowhard that doesn’t even understand what a fact IS. You are literally the most arrogant person I’ve seen all year.

Heart-Lightning
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>50 Shade of Grey has a 25% Critic score and a 49% User score Then you just proved my point on how it’s bad. If it was good, then wouldn’t it be up in the upper 70’s for 50 Shades to be a “good” movie. >The rating for Phantom Menace is tainted from when it was re-released, I doubt that a movie that is 57% Critic and 60% User average is considered “good”, especially for a Star Wars film. >ratings on older movies are NEVER reliable, they’re always overinflated because they’re regarded as “classics”, Or maybe the fact in which… Read more »
ToonaFish
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I… disagree.
The Boyformers and Hobbits and Star Wars prequels have SOMETHING that keeps dragging people in to see the next shitty movie – and that’s shitloads of action, and shitloads of special effects that you can’t really get in many other places.
A shitfest like this has got nothing. Normal people will just watch s&m porn.

salarcon525
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Wow. You guys completely missed the point as to why 50 Shades of Grey is demeaning to women. It’s not because it has sex and (fake) BDSM (seriously stop perpetuating the idea that sex is inherently degrading towards women!). It’s anti-woman because it glorifies and romanticizes abuse. And yes, I will take that very seriously, because I have met women who been with who treated them like Christian Grey treats Anastasia Steele, and trust me, there is nothing “romantic” or even “harmless” about it in real life. And shit like this just keeps normalizing abuse. I’ve already read articles by… Read more »
elwenaduialloth
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We’ve also seen at least one death as a result of people acting out 50 Shades fantasies. It’s pretty darn bad all around.

Ooki
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“Of course it is degrading to women, it is porn!” So I guess women should just be happy with that, then? Porn is inherently degrading to women and this isn’t a huge issue and doesn’t need to be fixed. Ugh. I know I know, porn is a male dominated demographic. I’m sure those two things are not related at all. Yeah, a lot of this was super cringey. They were acting like people were complaining because she was poorly written and Grey was too so “it’s the same.” I guess we could just say it’s a crap book and move… Read more »
salarcon525
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I disagree that porn is inherently degrading to women. Sure, the way it is often filmed and presented is degrading to women, but pornography in and of itself doesn’t necessarily have to be. And less so when it comes to erotic literature. There’s plenty of good erotic fiction out there that explores female sexuality in HEALTHY ways. There is nothing wrong with that. Nor is there anything wrong with BDSM between consenting adults. The problem with 50 Shades is how this sexual relationship is presented: it is dubiously consensual and coercive at best, and does not represent how real BDSM… Read more »
DarkAvenger42
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And that’s what makes the book’s popularity so terrifying, because while it may be fiction, what it’s about is REAL. People like Christian are REAL. Abusive relationships are REAL. People who say equate all physical abuse with BDSM are REAL. And the poisonous messages it sends to both about relationships, consent, and sex are VERY real. For me, that’s what makes these books the worst in human history, and unlike Twilight, there is no fantasy filter. But it gets worse, because now other authors are getting their abusive, rape culture fanfiction published, more likely than not due to 50 Shade’s… Read more »
Fontinau
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Hear that, folks? “The worst in human history”! Move over, Kipling – Indians don’t matter as much as middle class Americans.

By the way, calling a book “dangerous” is always a compliment.

Fontinau
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For that matter, move over, Ayn Rand – poor Americans don’t matter as much as middle class Americans either.

DarkAvenger42
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Okay, sorry. You’re right, that was an exaggeration, I apologize. I would delete my previous comment but the cite won’t let me.

My point still stands that these book are poisonous and very harmful.

AngryPete
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YOU’RE the one who’s demeaning women by thinking they’re stupid enough to take porn as an instruction on how to live their lives.

If someone watches rape porn that doesn’t mean that they’re going to think rape is okay.

MagatsuOrpheus
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Look, someone’s died trying to reenact a Fifty Shades scene. Clearly, some idiots are going to use it as instruction, and get themselves killed because they don’t get things like consent or how important safewords are.

ToastyMozart
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And humanity has lost someone who couldn’t separate reality from fiction. I’m hardly happy about a death, but it seems a bit like natural selection in this case.

salarcon525
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The problem isn’t that it’s marketed as porn. I get that “rape fantasy” is a thing. I get that it is just an indulgent fantasy, one that women/men can separate from reality. But that’s not what this is. The problem is that it is marketed as a “romance”. This, a clearly abusive relationship, one similar to what many women have gone through, is being presented as a “romance”. The problem is that it is sending the message that this is okay, that you can “change” your abusive boyfriend thought the power of love and missionary. And yes, believe if it… Read more »
ToonaFish
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Isn’t assuimg that all men are sick fucks who want nothing but to claim power over bitches and make them sex toys degrading to men?
Just a wild guess.

salarcon525
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Are you referring to the book/movie? Because yes, you could say that I suppose. I’ve actually read it, and every other guy in the story is a potential predator out to get Ana, which is used in the narrative to justify many of Christian Grey’s actions because in E.L. James’s messed up mind Ana NEEDS Christian to “protect” (read: control) her, or else she would get herself into trouble. Pretty messed up.

elwenaduialloth
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From what I have heard, a big chunk of the problem is that E.L. James, the book’s author, was pretty dictatorial during the production and curtailed what the cast and crew could even do with the film.

Kopaka1242
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No wonder the director wants nothing to do with the sequels.

Triple Nine
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If you guys want well shot porn you should watch nubile films

lobsterzoidberg
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I was hoping you guys would make this after I saw the Bum Review.

Anyway, I think this movie should have been made as a straight up NC17.

The Mysterious M
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If you want to watch a story that focuses on a pervert, watch “Heaven’s Lost Property.” That’s fucking hilarious! And the story is good. However, it is an anime, so… yeah.

MrJaxreid1
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Wild Things was not directed by Paul Verhoeven.

Spiritkitten
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aww…I was hoping to see Doug’s wife, Robin, get her opinion out on this movie. Oh well, I’m sorry you two had to suffer through this movie…I personally will never see this movie, the book to me is a bed time story, meaning it literally puts me to sleep 2 pages into reading it. I’m still only half way through…

Blackfist
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I read half this book… It’s a blight on smut. Estrogenical non-sense, this is the opposite of Action movies only without the tad bit of self-awareness.

Blackfist
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Wait a minute, what was that similar movie where Maggie Gyllenhal was naked? I liked THAT movie. It knew what it was and it was fun smut.

LMAOMan
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Secretary.

a Canadian Guy
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Stop saying this is degrading towards women bull.

Honestly you two don’t understand the Master & Servant roles in BDSM. I’m not into that kind of stuff, but at least i know how it works to a degree.

And porn isn’t “Shameful” to watch, it’s only shameful if you are a prude. I seen enough porn that honestly, i’m practically shameless.

Kali Hoke
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What makes this degrading to women has nothing to do with BDSM. If Ana’s character were a bottom there wouldn’t be a problem, but she’s not. She only barely tolerates BDSM because its the only type of relationship he will give her and never actually agrees to be his sub. Really, the problem with the narrative has more to do with the manipulation and abuse that takes place. The movie toned it down, but in the book Christian talks Ana out of her hard and soft limits, discourages her from using safewords, tries to isolate her from her friends and… Read more »
salarcon525
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It is degrading to women, but not for the reason that Doug and Rob say. No there is nothing wrong with erotica or BDSM, but the relationship presented in the books is not “erotic” or even BDSM. It is just abuse, and it glorifies it as “romantic”. Hell, the BDSM community HATES 50 Shades of Grey for its complete misrepresentation of how real BDSM relationships work, and how it completely goes against their motto: “Safe, Sane and Consensual”.

locuas
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apparently, you do not understand the master & servant dynamic. BDSM people HATE this movie and HATE how inaccurate it is. the tampon scene from the book is something people into BDSM DO NOT DO. BDSM DO NOT tell you to not see your friends. BDSM people DO NOT tell forbid you to do stuff. BDSM people DO NOT. i repeat. DO NOT make you firm some sort of contract. they DO NOT. or at the very least do not take it as having legal value. THIS is an abusive relationship. NOTHING more. this is not BDSM, this is not… Read more »
MagatsuOrpheus
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It’s not BDSM. Real BDSM does not leave the bedroom. Real BDSM uses safewords and clear explicit consent. Fifty Shades is not BDSM, it’s, in reality, an abusive relationship disguised as BDSM.

Cica
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I’m starting to wonder if everybody who says “You don’t know BDSM!” really knows BDSM him/herself. Of course it can leave the bedroom. Livinf the lifestyle 24/7 is a thing in real life. The sub can take orders from her/his Dom all the time. The Dom can also start controlling her eating habits, what she wears, where she is allowed to go to, etc… Never heard of that? And yes, i know people who are into this and are really going with it. And yes, there can also be contracts between masters and their slaves sometimes. So, no, again: it… Read more »
Melody Munson
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I saw the 50 Shades of Grey movie and I thought that the fact that the film took itself really seriously made the film more funny to be honest. Like the director and cinematographer went through so much effort to polish this piece of shit that a lot of the decisions were made funnier to me because they were less suspected.

RJ Dalton
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You know what the real difference between this and Twilight is for me? The people who enjoy it do seem to know what it is. I’ve never been attacked by a rabid fan of 50 Shades. They clearly do not care if you dislike it, and they do not try to argue with you when you say it’s not really a good book. They know exactly what it is and why they like it and don’t feel any need to justify it to anyone. That’s why I really don’t feel the need to get after this. The fans know what… Read more »
happymel
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I know that Twilight is stupid. I find this out more and more every time I watch the movies. I like the Twilight movies for the setting and the supporting characters. That’s what endears me to the Twilight movies. 50 Shades of Grey is a little too dirty for my taste. Again, though, why do people like this better than Twilight? The books/movies themselves and not the fandom that is. That’s the only thing I don’t get.

happymel
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And books… The movies left out some much needed characterization.

Zoey Posthuman
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I find it funny that these two had to go watch it together. Think about it. Brothers. Going to see softcore porn. I feel like the awkwardness is massive.

Maz
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I’ve gotta admit I’ve been in that camp of “How can people like this? It’s demeaning to women! It romanticizes stalking! Aaargh!” etc etc etc… Now I think I understand.
Thank you, Rob – your comments give me hope.

Maz
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*I should point out that I still think 50 Shades in an abominable piece of shit that I wouldn’t mourn being burned in the streets ^_^ It’s just I no longer think every *single* person who likes it is a brain-dead misogynist who supports the rape culture. Heh… It’s a good thing no-one ever misinterprets anything on the internet.

LightningSparrow
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I have a friend, who can’t stop talking about this movie and it’s taking it so seriously. She thinks it’s greatest, and I think it’s so stupid. What do I do? I have no idea how to talk to her anymore.

ThatOtherZ
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Lol send her feminist lit on why its crap and then try to find her a psychologist.

Maz
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Have her read this blog – from an actual abuse victim – on how 50 Shades is abuse:

http://theramblingcurl.blogspot.com.au/2014/02/fifty-abusive-moments-in-fifty-shades.html?m=1

ThatOtherZ
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What you guys don’t get is that no one is worried about the adults reading this. There are literally 12-17 year olds reading this, and THEY sometimes cannot tell the difference! There are 14 year olds that have “future mrs grey” shirts, qnd are serious that ive met…. That is freaking disturbing. So no, im not giving this crap film my hard earned $, id rather watch a free porn if I want to see that sort of thing,

Kopaka1242
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I know a junior in my class that’s thoroughly convinced the book’s a story of true love.

Moviemantweeter1999
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Nice job scooting over Rob at the end. Nice review. I think this would totally make a perfect nc episode it would be hailrious to see the character of the critic react to it. I also think the actress of Dakota Johnson looks good(especially in her brown pants in the playroom clip I found online I just can’t get enough of that scene awesomeness). I will probably ignore this flick and go check out the spoiler corner right after I post this comment. Then it’soff to watch the playroom scene. But I don’t think I see the main star going… Read more »
Hayley
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I’m so glad you guys are back, and I’ll watch these reviews when I have time, but first, I’m gonna let something out before I….. implode? See, I’ve been informed that in one of these reviews, you both try to claim that argument that 50 Shades of Grey demeans women is INVALID, because “it’s porn, that’s just what porn is” , and, “it’s demeaning to men too.” (like.. seriously? The whole “men have it just as bad” bullshit? Like…. do you have any idea about misogyny and rape culture against women that exists in the porn industry?) Also, you should… Read more »
ToastyMozart
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I don’t necessarily think it’s fair to blame the book/movie for people trying to replicate it in real life. Certainly, people who present it as a guide of any kind can fuck right off, as can people who say what happens in it is a safe and stable relationship, but I wouldn’t blame “The Deer Hunter” for the death of Bryan Javier Soto Aguilera.

Hayley
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*also note that I’m not angry, (that message likely came across as strongly projected) I’ve just had to repeat the same stuff to a lot of people. After a while it starts to feel like you’re reciting lyrics, and putting any emotion into it at all comes across as forced and exhausted rather than engaging. I’d be surprised if anyone even gets to the link at the end, really.

anna123c89
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I’m a little surprised at how they both seem to think that porn is inherently degrading to women, why should it be? if it’s degrading to women shouldn’t it be degrading to men too? women enjoy porn as well, why should they have to watch women being demeaned? if men enjoy watching women be objectified, can’t women enjoy watching men being objectified? also, 50 shades isn’t porn, its a mainstream film open for all audiences, and is aimed at women, so why on earth would a woman want to watch another being abused? they should watch a woman feeling empowered… Read more »
Kopaka1242
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Porn objectifies and degrades everyone. That’s why it’s porn.

Kopaka1242
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I really feel bad for the director. Doesn’t help that Stine fought against her at every turn during production. Good thing she’s being spared from doing the sequels. Stine can pilot this train-wreck on her own.

POLE7645
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Since she got no experience in filmaking, that means we’ll probably have our Tommy Wiseau-esque version (aka so bad it’s good).

Kopaka1242
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Oh crap…did I just confuse R. L. Stine with E. L. James?

Somebody just kill me.

Amones-Ray
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Yes! Sibling Rivalry is back!

la Lumière
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The only thing that’s a bigger waste of time than “50 Shades” is this video. Captain Obvious and Sergeant Apparently at their worst. “50 Shades” is slightly rewritten bad “Twilight” fan fiction, of course it’s complete shit. And of course turning it into a mainstream Hollywood movie was inevitably going to result in neutered, toothless, even more dumbed-down shit. What a surprise, let’s make a 20-minute video on how shockingly wet water is… But what seriously pisses me off is that “of course it’s demeaning to women – it’s porn” idiocy you keep repeating several times throughout the video? Just… Read more »
criticjunkie
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I’m a 49-year-old virgin who has NEVER been on a date. I saw the film alone. I agree completely. I wanted more skin. Besides, I read that it was the lead actor’s conmtract go full frontal.

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