The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey – Lost in Adaptation

The Dom and Calluna discuss what went right and what and wrong with the first movie in Peter Jackson’s The Hobbit adaptation.

About The Dom

Reviewer of games, TV shows and movies. The Dom also likes to look at film adaptations of books and talk about what got lost transitioning from page to screen.

12 comments

  1. Well, I at least saw the movie this time. I liked it. I remember the 3D being good. Haha. Lastly, congrats on the episode anniversary. ^.^

  2. Somewhat influenced by Scandinavian folk tales? You know that Tolkien is Scandinavian, right, and that he translated stories like Beowulf for fun, right?

    The “Eagle Plothole” from LOTR: I call bull on it. The whole point of the journey was SECRECY. If a flock of Eagles bearing what is essentially Sauron’s horcrux started flying straight for Mount Doom, they would have been greeted by an equally fearsome flock of flying lizards flown by Nazgul. They would have gotten as far as the Black Gate of Udun before being doused in 11 herbs and spices and devoured by hungry armies of Orcs. It’s not merely that the Eagles have their own agenda and simply choose to act at the right time; it’s that they are smart enough not to openly challenge the all-powerful Dark Lord of Middle Earth before seeing a clear advantage.

    • Also the Hobbit, the book version anyhow, establishes that the eagles won’t fly Bilbo and the dwarfs all the way to the Misty Mountain because they didn’t want to get to close to the farm communities near the lake village because the farmers there shoot at them with bows and arrows because the eagles steal their livestock.

      Now if they’re scared of farmers with bows, how much more scared would those same eagles be of orcs with bows and siege weapons?

      • True. But then again, they did show up at The Battle of Five Armies.

        It’s also a good point to consider, though: the reason that the Eagles weren’t more useful to the party – either the 14 or the Fellowship – is because they are outsiders; their relationship with humans makes it extremely difficult for them to be of more service to the heroes.

        • Also true. Of course in the case of the Battle of Five Armies, swooping down on enemies who are to distracted by their fighting to defend themselves from you is considerably safer then approaching an area with folks who are on the lookout for you.

  3. Glad to see you’re done with the Potterverse, at least for now, and you’re examining something I’ve actually seen before. Nice work.

    Grats on the anniversary.

  4. Seeing crossovers in Channel Awesome reviewer videos makes me think back to the days of “Kickassia” “Suburban Kinghts” “to blodly flee” and the first two very early crossover episodes starting with the first TGWTG one and the “nerd vs critic”.

    Imagine if they did another one? It would be epic; although I feel i’m alone in this hope, that and I have no idea where to post it in forums, very confusing.

    Anyway I’d move to see Dom and Calluna appear in future channel awesome movie.

  5. I love Lost in Adaptation and am glad you are getting onto these, even if not The Lord of the Rings itself yet. Well done on reaching 50: here’s to (at least) another 50! 🙂

    I could not get through this series of films myself: the first one was so bad and changed so much from the book that I never watched another, not even when they became free to watch on Netflix.

    However there is one part that needs slightly moving: Gandalf scratching the sign into Bilbo’s door is from the book, but the sign he scratched is a change. In the film he is clearly scratching the runic G, Gandalf’s own sign. However in the book the dwarves mention that the sign is “Burglar wants a good job, plenty of Excitement and reasonable Reward,” a sign that is described as queer (odd) when Gandalf scratches it in (also using the tip of his staff, not magic).

    One other thing to note: Azog is never referred to as being coloured differently to other Orcs in the books. He is described as extremely large, but no mention of colour. In fact the only mention of Orc colours are the Uruks and the Snufflers who are described as Swarthy (Dark Skinned) and in a letter he mentioned that Orcs are Sallow skinned (sickly yellow or lightish brown). Since they did not go with that colouring for the normal Orcs (obviously to keep them looking like the Lord of the Rings orcs where they used the more-commonly held green colouring), Azog should be the same colour as the rest.

  6. waaiitttt… how the hell did she make the arrows do a 90 degree turn?

  7. Its a bit embarrassing to admit, but to date I’ve never seen The Lord of the Rings trilogy! (Hi there Tamara)

    I’d long been more familiar with the basic story of The Hobbit, having played a goblin in a musical adaptation as a kid and seen the Rankin-Bass movie. So without knowing how LOTD followed that story I couldn’t understand why they didn’t just adapted The Hobbit first. I knew even than The Hobbit wasn’t quite as epic, so I figured why not just go in chronological order? Though given the turnout, I guess the lack of live action introduction to Tolkin’s world wasn’t necessary to draw in non-readers.

    Jump ahead several years I’m again surprised when they final bring The Hobbit to screen and chop the book into thirds. I’m thinking, “Okey now you’re just trying to repeat the prior success without having as much to work with.”

    I wonder if they’ll be a comparison between these films and the Rankin-Bass film to the original novel at some point.

  8. Daniel Brizuela

    Having read the book long before the movies were made I can say that I approve of the changes and really loved these movies.

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