The Wiz Live – 25 Days of Sharkmas

Tim & Beth officially start the 25 Days of Christmas with a review of the first “good” NBC live musical, “The Wiz.” It only goes downhill from here.

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Hosts Tim & Beth break down the best, worst and strangest TV shows to find out when they jumped the shark.


  1. What is that at 0:11? Looks like SNL, but I guess they could be using SNL actors in these live shows.

  2. Fiddler on the Roof is a Jewish show, not a white one. Hell, part of it is about Tevye not wanting one of his daughters to marry a white guy.

    • Jews by and large are white. We just aren’t Christian… and in other times, that was enough to brand you the wrong kind of white (just as Irish and Italians were once considered non-white).

      • And the latter cases prove even being Christian wasn’t enough if you were the wrong kind of Christian.

      • That Irish and Italians were not considered white, proves that the concept of race /”whiteness” is not limited to skin color. While Tevye might technically be white, he is not a “WASP” and the musical concerns itself with themes such asculture and discrimination, which disqualifies it from being a “white” musical (“white” as used by the hosts not describing the casts skin color, but being a tongue-in-cheek term to describe art that is considered old-fashioned, familiy friendly, adhered to the US’s white Prostestant mainstream culture and a bit “bland”).

    • Snorgatch Pandalume

      He didn’t want her to marry a gentile. I’m pretty sure Fyedka was still white.

      • He was white. He was a Christian, and that was what her father had a problem with.

        • Snorgatch Pandalume

          Well, I’m reasonably certain he would have had an even BIGGER problem with it if Fyedka had been black. 😉

          • Maybe yes, maybe no. But his biggest priority is the Jewish Traditions (as was emphasized in the opening number) and therefore his biggest problem was that Fyedka was Christian, not Jewish. His main concern was that his daughters carry on the main family tradition by marrying Jews. His other two daughters broke tradition too by marrying men THEY chose. But at least the men were Jewish, which was why he accepted them. When Chava eloped with Feydka, that was more than he could bear which was why he temporarily disowned her.

    • The Real Silverstar

      Judaism isn’t a race, it’s a religion. There are non-white Jews. Sammy Davis Jr. famously converted to Judaism, as did an African-American friend of my father’s. Tevye didn’t want his daughter marrying a gentile; it had nothing to do with this skin color.

  3. I can’t wait for you to do Peter Pan Live! That was a huge disappointment, especially Christopher Walken, what was THAT all about?!

  4. The problem with The Sound Of Music Live was that they thought that they needed to cast a professional singer as the lead. They neglected to figure that the person needed some ACTING talent too! There’s a big difference between actors who can sing and just plain singers!

  5. I don’t know, watching Christopher Walkin act like Captain Hook in the Peter Pan Live performance was guilty pleasure as all hell for me. :3

    • The thing is Christopher Walken can sing and dance, as was demonstrated in the various times he hosted SNL and when he was in Hairspray. So I was expecting a fantastic performance…and instead to me he looked like he was falling asleep up there! It’s like, “OK, he’s playing with us. Any minute now he’s gonna jump up and do a great production number. Any minute now….any minute now…” and it never happened. To me it’s like he was sleepwalking.

      • Snorgatch Pandalume

        I found it funny that people were surprised when Christopher Walken played King Louie in the recent Jungle Book remake. “He can sing?” they asked, shocked. Yes, of course he can sing! He started out in musical theater! He did a ’30s style musical with Steve Martin called Pennies From Heaven! All of which makes it even more surprising that he’s so lifeless in Peter Pan.

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